Sed\u00edm v Orlande, v \u0161t\u00e1te Florida, v ob\u00fdva\u010dke svojich rodi\u010dov, Jima a Kathy Heinigerovcov. Sme u nich na n\u00e1v\u0161teve po\u010das n\u00e1\u0161ho leta v Spojen\u00fdch \u0161t\u00e1toch. Mo\u017eno ich pozn\u00e1te z \u010dasov, ke\u010f v rokoch 2010 a 2011 pri\u0161li pom\u00f4c\u0165 s KECY t\u00e1bormi v Bardejove, alebo po\u010das ich n\u00e1v\u0161tevy Banskej Bystrice v roku 2016. Povedala som si, \u017ee by mohlo by\u0165 in\u0161piruj\u00face urobi\u0165 s nimi rozhovor, preto\u017ee u\u017e roky miluj\u00fa P\u00e1na a po\u010das ich \u017eivotov konzistentne r\u00e1stli v ich vz\u0165ahu s N\u00edm. Nielen\u017ee v\u010faka nim pozn\u00e1m a milujem Je\u017ei\u0161a, ale tie\u017e pokra\u010dujem v raste vo vz\u0165ahu s moj\u00edm Spasite\u013eom. Mojou modlitbou je, \u017ee nimi budete povzbuden\u00ed a vyzvan\u00ed e\u0161te viac r\u00e1s\u0165 v t\u00fa\u017ebe a l\u00e1ske k Nemu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Ako dlho ste nasledovn\u00edkmi Je\u017ei\u0161a?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n Kathy<\/strong>: Asi 40 rokov.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Jim<\/strong>: Pri\u0161iel som do zboru, ke\u010f som mal 19 rokov, ale ke\u010f som mal 33, uvedomil som si, \u017ee to zo m\u0148a urobilo len \u201e\u010dlena zboru\u201c. Potom som vlo\u017eil svoju vieru do toho, \u010do pre m\u0148a Je\u017ei\u0161 urobil na kr\u00ed\u017ei. V tom momente, v roku 1978, som sa stal \u201enasledovn\u00edkom Je\u017ei\u0161a\u201c.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Povedali by ste, \u017ee va\u0161a l\u00e1ska k Nemu po\u010das rokov r\u00e1stla st\u00e1le alebo nepravidelne?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n Obaja sa zhodli na tom, \u017ee ich duchovn\u00fd rast sa v ich man\u017eelstve dial stabilne. Moja mamka si pam\u00e4t\u00e1, ako m\u00f4j otec \u010dasto \u010d\u00edtal Bibliu, mal hlad po u\u010den\u00ed a raste. Otec sa u\u010dil a mama za\u010dala by\u0165 hladn\u00e1 po pravd\u00e1ch, ktor\u00e9 sa otec u\u010dil.<\/p>\n\n\n\n M\u00f4j otec<\/strong> Jim dod\u00e1va<\/strong>: „S t\u00fdm, ako sa Kathy a ja navz\u00e1jom podporujeme, obaja sme stabilne r\u00e1stli po\u010das 50+ rokov n\u00e1\u0161ho man\u017eelstva.\u201c<\/p>\n\n\n\n \u010co sp\u00f4sobilo najviac rastu vo va\u0161om hlade po Je\u017ei\u0161ovi?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n Kathy<\/strong>: „Vidie\u0165 \u0161karedos\u0165 m\u00f4jho \u201ctela\u201d a moju potrebu z\u00e1vislosti na Duchovi, aby Kristus \u017eil cezo m\u0148a.“<\/p>\n\n\n\n Jim<\/strong>: „Mysl\u00edm na dve veci, ktor\u00e9 objasnili a povzbudili m\u00f4j rast v \u0147om. <\/p>\n\n\n\n Pochopil som, \u017ee Kristovo telo, s\u00fa\u010dasn\u00e1 Cirkev, p\u00f4sobiaca pod evanjeliom milosti, bola ve\u013emi odli\u0161n\u00e1 od toho, \u010do u\u010den\u00edci za\u017eili, ke\u010f bol Kristus na\u017eive, a od cirkvi \u201eEvanjelia kr\u00e1\u013eovstva\u201c v \u010dase 12 u\u010den\u00edkov. To mi pomohlo oddeli\u0165 z\u00e1kon od milosti a pochopi\u0165, \u017ee in\u0161trukcie pre \u017didov a pohanov, Telo Kristovo, boli \u010disto Milos\u0165ou. <\/p>\n\n\n\n Bol som vyz\u00fdvan\u00fd t\u00fdm, \u017ee som sa neust\u00e1le sna\u017eil pochopi\u0165, \u010do sa biblick\u00ed u\u010denci z d\u00e1vnych \u010dias sna\u017eili komunikova\u0165 o tom, \u017ee s\u00fa „identifikovan\u00ed s Kristom“ v Jeho smrti, pohrebe, vzkriesen\u00ed a \u017eivote. A pochopi\u0165, \u010do sa denn\u00e9 st\u00ed\u0161enia s n\u00e1zvom \u201eNone but the Hungry Heart\u201d sna\u017eili poveda\u0165, a niekedy to trvalo roky vracania sa sp\u00e4\u0165, ale na konci to prinieslo rast.<\/p>\n\n\n\n \u010co z P\u00edsma v\u00e1s najviac ovplyvnilo vo va\u0161om duchovnom raste?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n Kathy <\/strong>bola najviac ovplyvnen\u00e1 listami, ktor\u00e9 nap\u00edsal apo\u0161tol Pavol, preto\u017ee tie mu boli dan\u00e9, aby sme vedeli v\u0161etko, \u010do Boh pre n\u00e1s m\u00e1 v Kristovi v tomto veku milosti kv\u00f4li smrti, pohrebu, vzkrieseniu a \u017eivotu jeho Syna. R\u00edmskym 8:2<\/p>\n\n\n\n Jim <\/strong>hovor\u00ed: „M\u00e1m r\u00e1d List Gala\u0165anom, preto\u017ee mi pom\u00e1ha oddeli\u0165 z\u00e1kon od milosti a uvedomi\u0165 si, \u017ee milos\u0165ou, prostredn\u00edctvom viery, sme skuto\u010dne ukri\u017eovan\u00ed s Kristom, a napriek tomu sme schopn\u00ed necha\u0165 Ho pracova\u0165 cez n\u00e1s. “ Gal 2:20<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ak\u00fa radu by ste n\u00e1m ako pracovn\u00edkom s ml\u00e1de\u017eou na Slovensku poradili, aby sme sa s\u00fastredili na to, \u010do je najd\u00f4le\u017eitej\u0161ie?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n Rady od Kathy<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n Jimova rada<\/strong>: Mysl\u00edm, \u017ee sa vo v\u0161eobecnosti zameriavame na veci, ktor\u00e9 sa „MUSIA“ urobi\u0165. Ver\u00edm v\u0161ak, \u017ee prosperuj\u00faca slu\u017eba, aspo\u0148 z Bo\u017eieho poh\u013eadu, bude t\u00e1, ktorej zameranie je najprv, „prija\u0165“ a „oceni\u0165“ to, \u010do Kristus pre n\u00e1s na kr\u00ed\u017ei dosiahol, a po druh\u00e9 pochopi\u0165, ako bude na\u0161e stoto\u017enenie s t\u00fdmto \u00faspechom z\u00e1kladn\u00fdm kame\u0148om Krista, ktor\u00fd \u017eije svoj\u00edm \u017eivotom cez n\u00e1s.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Je tu e\u0161te nie\u010do, \u010do by ste n\u00e1m chceli poveda\u0165? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n Kathy <\/strong>povedala, \u017ee to, \u010do \u013eutuje zo svojej minulosti, s\u00fa \u010dasy, ke\u010f videla, ako reaguje vo svojom tele, tak\u017ee teraz je jej t\u00fa\u017ebou pohn\u00fa\u0165 sa vpred, kr\u00e1\u010da\u0165 v Duchu a ne\u017ei\u0165 v tom, \u010do \u013eutuje. Povzbudzuje n\u00e1s v\u0161etk\u00fdch, aby sme urobili to ist\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Jim <\/strong>cituje fr\u00e1zu z Disney filmu Lev\u00ed kr\u00e1\u013e, „Hakuna Matata!“ Vysvet\u013euje, „Nestrachujte sa\u201c, \u017ee mus\u00edte urobi\u0165 v\u0161etko, a to dokonca v spr\u00e1vnom \u010dase a v spr\u00e1vnom porad\u00ed. Ak je v\u00e1\u0161 vz\u0165ah s Kristom siln\u00fd, postar\u00e1 sa o to, \u017ee veci, ktor\u00e9 chce, aby sa stali, sa stan\u00fa, a to v Jeho spr\u00e1vnom \u010dase (cez v\u00e1s). Len oddychujte a u\u010dte ostatn\u00fdch, aby v \u0147om zost\u00e1vali a boli odpo\u010dinut\u00ed. Je\u017ei\u0161 povedal: „Po\u010fte ku mne v\u0161etci, ktor\u00ed sa nam\u00e1hate a ste pre\u0165a\u017een\u00ed; ja v\u00e1m d\u00e1m odpo\u010din\u00fa\u0165.“ Mt 11:28 <\/p>\n\n\n\n \u010eakujem, mami a oci, za \u010das, ktor\u00fd ste str\u00e1vili zdie\u013ean\u00edm t\u00fdchto pr\u00e1vd. 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